1999 SWB Pajero 3.5 overheating in desert only

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Re: 1999 SWB Pajero 3.5 overheating in desert only

Postby Trojan » Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:30 pm

gaurav wrote:Yes trojan, AC fan means Air conditioning fan which is in front of radiator. It looks non genuine because of small brackets on which its bolted.

And hell yes 40 is big temperature, and to my surprise all japanese 4x4 like cruiser, patrol and pajeros are made for this climate and never cry as i own all in past and seen MANY in desert at 48 degree too. In my case there is definitely something is not right.

And yes electric fan is good idea, that has power on demand rather than on RPM. Regarding coolant, i was also thinking same if change to coolant than water, may be this problem will get sorted. But then all my friends say that water has more cooling than coolant and if its throwing heat with water it will def throw heat with coolant too. Is it true?

So far there is no warning light i have seen its that temp gauge climbs up slowly and after touching the thermo icon top it cuts of AC, i assume at 90 - 100 degree water temp.


Dragon: Oil cooler is for A/T which is separate in my case not inside the radiator, so i dont think it will help much. I put synthetic oil just by choice as it has better heat absorbing and higher break point. But yes with that marginal money spend i def feel the difference in overall engine performance, noise, response etc.




On my swb 99 model 3.5 Pajero thinking of swapping the radiator for test with my friend pajero swb 3.0 (2000 model). Will it fit?

As an experiment i checked the radiator cap and its absolutely same and fitted nicely on each other.


Water is a better heatsink than coolant like anti-freeze with added summer coolant, but it boils quicker too. Anti-freeze with summer coolant will also thicken up when you get to a 50/50 mix and at high temperatures it will coat all the waterways with a gummy residue. What I was suggesting was HD ELC, Heavy Duty Extended Life Coolant with distilled water at a 60/40 or 50/50 mix. If you go for this, get a silicate free product. I know the US Army uses GM Dexcool in their Humvees in Kuwait as they were having heat control issues early in the recent Gulf War.

I would suggest that a good radiator flush is used prior to using a HD ELC product to remove any residue from previous Glycol based products that others may have used before you. I would also advise you cut the bars out of the grill and fit a mesh to keep bugs and stones out. Airflow, airflow, airflow is critical to keeping the temp down in your truck.

Dragon has a good point over the air filter and you may want to think about where this seperate ATF cooler is located. Under the engine and inside the bash plates is a bad idea as it too close to the desert floor to shift heat quick enough. Where Mitsubishi had the system is the best place for it, especially so because it benefits from the cooling force of the fan.

As for the radiators, a 3.0 rad from a 2000 model should fit, should fit, but you may find it doesn't if it's a different size.
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Re: 1999 SWB Pajero 3.5 overheating in desert only

Postby dragon » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:29 pm

you could also try some exhaust wrap to try keep the engine bay a little cooler also some sort of venting in the bonnet will allow heat to escape from the engine bay but it will also allow water to come in closer to the electrics so just be careful to plan any venting away from ignition coils etc as water has a nasty habbit of stopping your truck on a petrol variant
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Re: 1999 SWB Pajero 3.5 overheating in desert only

Postby dragon » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:32 pm

i have read on another forum about some guyhaving high temp problems with his auto box when offroading
so he added an extra a/t cooler to keep gear box temps down .

i know its not your box that is the problem but just a thought for future offroading
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Re: 1999 SWB Pajero 3.5 overheating in desert only

Postby gaurav » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:36 pm

All the sizes that i could check w/o opening radiator was same in both the cars, and even hose pipe socket and bolt pattern is same.

We opened both radiator and figured out that 3.5 radiator is higher than 3.0 radiator.

Hence we didn't swap and wasted lot of man hours and money. Sad

But one of my landy expert pointed that please try clutch fan change from that 3.0 friend pajero as a test and see if it works, as nothing else is left than clutch fan, AC fan, coolant, and radiator clean up. And its japanese car in dubai is like ther are built for 50+ degree centigrade.

So i did swap clutch fan and filled radiator with Prestone coolant having boilver point of 126 degree centigrade.

Next day tested the car in desert and in 30 minutes i drove for 14kms with the temp needle at standard center position. So main culprit was clutch fan, i will get a new clutch fan and return my friends one soon.

THANKS A TON GUYS, for all help and brainstorming with me.
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Re: 1999 SWB Pajero 3.5 overheating in desert only

Postby dragon » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:44 pm

no problem at all mate glad to help ..just wish we had some great places like your deserts to go offroading in .
that would be so cool..
you must post some pics of some of the trails you go on sometime but keep us up to date with how your truck performs :great
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Re: 1999 SWB Pajero 3.5 overheating in desert only

Postby gaurav » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:50 am

Hey Dragon: The day you visit Dubai, shoot me an email and will go in desert together and you can drive my ride.

Now planning to change spark plugs by myself (for first time in life) with this as im getting very curious to start feeling my rides by myself (personal satisfaction)

Will post pics when i hit proper desert drive soon. Thanks.
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Re: 1999 SWB Pajero 3.5 overheating in desert only

Postby dragon » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:46 pm

never go on your own though mate just incase an unfortunate accident occurs at least you have someone to help you .
wish i could afford to take you up on that offer mate
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Re: 1999 SWB Pajero 3.5 overheating in desert only

Postby gaurav » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:02 pm

dragon wrote:never go on your own though mate just incase an unfortunate accident occurs at least you have someone to help you .
wish i could afford to take you up on that offer mate



If u mean for desert drive, i DAMN agree that to never go alone after seeing and recovering many of my friends who dare to go alone and i got a call after few hrs with their coordinates to drag them out. We usually go out with 5, 10 cars every week almost.

If you mean for changing plug, then yes i tried and i got scared and came back with these pictures.lol. Will be visiting professional soon.
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Re: 1999 SWB Pajero 3.5 overheating in desert only

Postby gaurav » Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:46 pm

SAD SAD SAD, Please help guys.

Just came from desert drive and immediately after 2 km in sand my pajero again started overheating and started throwing coolant from expansion bottle, so i exited and as i hit road temp came back normal.

So far i have done all this following things, please advise what next.

New 3 point (newer model pajero type) NGK (BKR6ETUB) spark plugs
New 3 HT lead and new 3 coils (due to slight missing and roughness)
Cleaned the radiator thorougly by opening it fully line by line
Filled with 40% (water): 60% mixture of radiator coolant (prestone)
Changed the viscose fan
Checked AC fan is working
Thermostat is out (but it was new, and i have preserved it in a jar of water to be refitted once all is well)
Changed Air filter
Changed fuel filter
Changed EGR gasket


On road it runs with beautiful acceleration and shifts normal and never overheat. I tried driving in 4x4 gear under 80kmph on road and still no overheating. As it enter desert it throw heat and at first start throwing coolant out of expansion bottle and coolant in the bottle start boiling VERY HOT.

It could be start of screwed up head gasket????? (then how come its still doing 0 - 100 in 12 secs on road)

Its 3.5 with 24 valve and 1999 model, if anyone has this model can you please confirm if the original radiator is 2 line or 3 line? As im also doubting it cud be radiator because when i removed and got it cleaned i saw it is 2 line but on the head of radiator there was design of 3 line, so may be previous owner thought of cost cutting in maint and got 2 line rad in past in place of 3 lines.
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